I think I did a bad thing today.
I joined a yahoo group last winter when I got Hannah. Of course, it was a poodle group. I liked this group because they did things a bit differently than some other groups; they had one day a week for people to share jokes; another day specifically set aside to share pictures. It cut out a lot of crap in the way of emails, you know? You could plan for the days to read jokes or enjoy pictures - no more of having to slog through tons of chaff to get to the wheat, if that makes sense.
Then, today one of the members sent along a forward that Andy Rooney apparently opined; it dealt with the fact that there are several places in government buildings where the Ten Commandments are prominently displayed. At the end of the opinion piece was something said to the effect that 86% of the country is Christian and the majority should tell the other 14% to shut up.
I thought I'd written a nice letter stating that I was in the 14% and I thought that a poodle list should be about poodles and not try to shove religion down anyone's throat.
As a result, one person wrote a huge "I'm offended" and "I love Jesus Christ" letter to the group, berating me for hurting the feelings of the person who sent the original forward along and snipping that they sure hadn't seen many posts from me.
The moderator just sent a letter along stating she didn't have time to babysit for a bunch of adults who should think before sitting down at a keyboard. So, she's dissolving the list. I wrote to the list begging her not to dissolve the thing and telling her I'd unsub, which I will as soon as I see the my letter come across.
Maybe I shouldn't have responded, but dammit! We live in a country that's supposed to be about Freedom of Religion. Yet, there is a huge percentage of Christians who just cannot accept other beliefs as valid.
I have a co-worker who doesn't have time for me since finding out that my faith wasn't necessarily hers. Now, when having a conversation with her, she says her piece and then adds, "Praise Jesus". She never did that before when she thought I was a Believer. Now she brings books in to read...all dealing with a religious theme, of course.
Every so often some idiot does something and gets arrested; the police put out information that says the person was a Satanist, or it was part of some witchcraft ritual. And many Christians go berserk because the heathens must be converted or die! Yet, when church-going Christians commit crimes, they don't get the same kind of press over their sins. In fact, in many cases, the religious aspect never even comes up. Did Scott Peterson kill his wife? Probably so. But, did you ever hear anything about Scott being a regular member of XYZ Church? I didn't think so. Yet, if Scott would have been a Pagan, the press would have been all over that.
We had a mass murder in our city last week. A man killed his wife and four kids before committing suicide. He'd committed a crime and would have probably been put in prison for a short time. There was a huge funeral. The Bishop even was part of the service. Fred Phelps even showed up to make his demented point that these people had died because our city is liberal and gay folks live here.
But, this Christian man was able to embezzle money, bludgeon his wife and kids with baseball bats until they were dead, then kill himself. He broke a lot of commandments there. But, he was a Christian so somehow that was more okay than it would have been for those of us in that other 14% minority.
It's appalling.
And in some ever widening circle, I come back to the original list message. I did a bad thing today, I think. A list enjoyed by many gets dissolved because the actions of a few. And, I'm one of the few. I feel badly.
6 comments:
You shouldn't feel badly Kate. You're so right about how the Pagan's are treated. My son is of that faith and he doesn't tell many people just for that reason and a few more. People react to what they don't understand.
Hang in there. I'm sorry you're hurt.
*hugs*
It sounds like the list owner was looking for an excuse to shut down shop Kate. I'd not take it so personally on that point.
The whole other bit though, you have every right to voice your opinions and beliefs just as the other did. You were right, a poodle group has nothing to do with your religion and that particular posting should not have gone there to begin with!
I did get a off list email from the list owner telling me that she'd been thinking about shutting down the list for awhile and the religious thing was just the thing she needed to do it. What gripes me, though, is that about 50 people read that list and there were seldom any on line problems, though what went on behind the scenes is anyone's guess. It's too bad that she didn't mail the list and see if someone wanted to take ownership of the list so it could continue...or put perceived troublemakers on moderated status for awhile. There were lots of options, so I'm going to assume it was inevitable.
That doesn't take away from my thought that the placement of the religious themed post was just wrong to have been posted in the first place.
You didn't "do anything wrong" Kate! It irks me to no end how the human race can be so frickin' intolerant of other people's beliefs/faiths.
Definitely if anything you were a help for this lady to do what she wanted to do anyway, shut the place down. It's sad that it had to be something you were involoved in to make you feel badly about it though. It wasn't YOU who got the place closed, it was HER.
And your co-worker "friend" can go suck a pickle if that's her attitude. Who needs to be around people like that anyway.
bleh!
Merry meet!
I am wondering - was there any prior off-topic weirdness prior to the Great Religion War? I agree you did right, ignorant people need to be educated.
Blessed be,
Ross
Merry Meet Ross!
Thanks for stopping by. Hope to see you again.
No, no weirdness other than the usual stuff most Pagans are used to - there's always comments and jokes sent that are really cute for the most part, which could be changed to any religion, if that makes sense. But this fell into the "blatant" category and specifically mentioned God and the Ten Commandments specific *to* Christianity, then made a point of saying those who were not Christian should just "shut up". And that's what offended me to the point I had to say something!
In fact, I'll stop right now, because it would be SO easy for me to climb right back on my soapbox!!! LOL
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